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alamakk…apa citer ni faz?

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Post time 8-5-2025 06:52 AM | Show all posts

So secara legallynya, dia maybe tak bersalah. Tapi company tu bwk nama dia, and dia pemilik. The reputation is already bad dan dia nak buat bisnes lepas ni mmg payah la.

Company dia kena bungkus, cairkan asset dan lunaskan hutang.

The narative si fazura ni berhutang 4.65 juta akan tetap orang ingat dan sebut wpun legally dia tak bersalah.

Sama je masa dia start naratif fitnah laki curang, tak bagi nafkah. Wpun benda tu tak betul masih ada orang percaya dan sebut2 sampai ajm.
So now, dia rasakan sendiri la benda buruk dia buat kat orang.

But i harap mahkamah putuskan yg dia bersalah.
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Post time 8-5-2025 07:37 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
freesia71 replied at 7-5-2025 10:52 PM
So secara legallynya, dia maybe tak bersalah. Tapi company tu bwk nama dia, and dia pemilik. The r ...

At least hutang RM4.65 juta ni kes mahkamah dan dia director of the company. Kes curang dan nafkah semata modal air liur je
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Post time 8-5-2025 08:08 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Minami2013 replied at 8-5-2025 07:37 AM
At least hutang RM4.65 juta ni kes mahkamah dan dia director of the company. Kes curang dan nafkah ...

Kata benak munafake, nak bukti curang, kena mtk kt court..kalo rajin, bole mintak sendiri kt lawyer fakhrul tuuu.

Satu lg, depa kata kalola bukti aib tu tersebar, FA boleh terduduk teruih tak bangun2
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Post time 8-5-2025 08:33 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
freesia71 replied at 8-5-2025 06:52 AM
So secara legallynya, dia maybe tak bersalah. Tapi company tu bwk nama dia, and dia pemilik. The r ...

Yes agreed. Secara legal seseorang yg licik boleh terlepas atas alasan a company of sdn bhd is a separate legal entity. Sebab kita adopt British law system.

Tapi, aman ker hidup, takde ker sekelumit rasa malu, deep inside knowing kita makan hasil dari penganiyaan atas orang lain? Contoh, kita pedajal business partner kita dgn bolot untung sorang2... Beli stocks niaga dengan air liur dan cheque tendang, sampai nak masuk 3 tahun tak bayar-bayar...

Tak malu ker masuk TikTok jual barang yg public tau, kita tak bayar barang tu?

Source - Cari, portal news etc
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Post time 8-5-2025 08:36 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
clara_nur replied at 8-5-2025 08:08 AM
Kata benak munafake, nak bukti curang, kena mtk kt court..kalo rajin, bole mintak sendiri kt lawye ...

haha takut idolat diorg jatuh terduduk x bangun2 kalau satu news ni leak. karatz pajurah baik doa la byk2 Allah tak bukak aib yg satu ni ye
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Post time 8-5-2025 08:41 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kitty_catz replied at 7-5-2025 06:07 PM
thanks kaka @Rogue98 for the tacang tacangsss

tak sempat nak belek2 lagi , nanti dah settle meols ...

tq kakitty n kaka2 yg share info n insight...looking forward utk fazfit punye kupasan pulak
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Post time 8-5-2025 08:53 AM | Show all posts
clara_nur replied at 8-5-2025 08:08 AM
Kata benak munafake, nak bukti curang, kena mtk kt court..kalo rajin, bole mintak sendiri kt lawye ...

Bukti terpendam ke? Sebab file under tak seperfahaman bukannya curang. So tarak tunjuk kat hakimlah kan, hanya tunjuk dekat benak jelahkan?
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Post time 8-5-2025 08:54 AM | Show all posts
bro_kr replied at 8-5-2025 08:33 AM
Yes agreed. Secara legal seseorang yg licik boleh terlepas atas alasan a company of sdn bhd is a s ...

Lagi satu ada trust deficit gak, lepas ni pengilang mana nak deal business dengan kaki lari hutang scam cek tendang? Haaa kan dah susah tuuu.
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Post time 8-5-2025 09:02 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Maka mereka yang membencinya sejak dia minta cerai/mengaibkan pasangan, akan bersorak kegembiraan selama 7 hari 7 malam...
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Post time 8-5-2025 09:04 AM | Show all posts
freesia71 replied at 8-5-2025 06:52 AM
So secara legallynya, dia maybe tak bersalah. Tapi company tu bwk nama dia, and dia pemilik. The r ...

legally dia tak bersalah??
so sign cek tendang pon bukan salah dia la ya??
hhmmm, menarik untuk diulas ni.....
mungkin dia "ter"sign atau ada yang paksa dia sign....
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Post time 8-5-2025 09:48 AM | Show all posts
buailajulaju replied at 8-5-2025 12:41 AM
tq kakitty n kaka2 yg share info n insight...looking forward utk fazfit punye kupasan pulak

uii banyak betul reply from acik2 porr

sabar sat.. nanti meols temfek.. biau  meols check dulu takut kang tersilap review pulak iyer

hat mana tak sempat reply tu maap naa.. ni yg plg atas dlm list noti

@OsHiN_hOnEy thanks for the tacangs
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Post time 8-5-2025 10:02 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
KakRumiMenari replied at 7-5-2025 09:12 PM
I rasa mana2 brand yg guna ejen stokis yg pegang stock, diorang kena bayar / beli stock siap2 sblm ...

Betul. I pernah jd ejen satu produk ni. Bos mmg dh brief siap2 dlm group sblm launch produk baru. So, pada hari launching tu nanti ejen2 akan komen kt video  HQ, jd customer tak perlu la tunggu lama nak dpt produk tu. Tp ni utk produk yg tu je la. Company lain mungkin style lain kan
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Post time 8-5-2025 10:37 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mrsLucky replied at 8-5-2025 01:12 AM
ChatGPT kata....



Hoyeh pandai betul chat gpt. So boleh dikatakan itu la sbb faz letak jawatan. Paling2 yg bankrap abg dia srg la. Bankrap lagi sng dr byr htg, tapi kena cepat tkr nama aset kepada spouse la. Masuk insolvensi je la.
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Post time 8-5-2025 10:44 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
freesia71 replied at 8-5-2025 06:52 AM
So secara legallynya, dia maybe tak bersalah. Tapi company tu bwk nama dia, and dia pemilik. The r ...

Lepas ni kalau dia niaga supplier mesti tak berani bg terms dah.. Semua cash. Ssh sikit la dia nk rolling. patutla letak jawatan dr co sendri. Udah bau2 hutang xleh bayar gamaknya
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Post time 8-5-2025 10:49 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
heran plk aku faz cnt afford to pay the outstanding amount. she even have the koleksi terbaru of bag hermes. i think it is just a misunderstanding kot.
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Post time 8-5-2025 10:53 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lazim replied at 8-5-2025 10:37 AM
Hoyeh pandai betul chat gpt. So boleh dikatakan itu la sbb faz letak jawatan. Paling2 yg bankrap a ...

Mmg kes ni director akan kena bankrupsi ke.. let say  diorang pilih utk bayar lump sum/ansuran , pun kena gak ye?
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Post time 8-5-2025 11:12 AM | Show all posts
vanilla_ice replied at 8-5-2025 09:04 AM
legally dia tak bersalah??
so sign cek tendang pon bukan salah dia la ya??
hhmmm, menarik untuk di ...

Rilek sis, I tulis tu MAYBE. And i komen tu resonding  to the earlier punya kupasan pasal akta perniagaan etc etc.  

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Post time 8-5-2025 11:21 AM | Show all posts
piro77 replied at 7-5-2025 01:17 PM
Sorry menyampuk. Bad debt tu 3rd party yg tak bayar payment ke kita. Tapi kena buktikan betul2 buka ...

oh ok thanks share info

so kesimpulannya mmg ada solid reason la utk pink fate capture rm522K ni dlm acct so kita boleh sahkan benda ni solid molid

lebih kurang mcm if pink fate tak settle utang rm4M++ ke obor sampai ke sudah.. maka dlm acc obor tu akan capture bad debt la giteww kalau kita nak pusing2kan cerita utk nampak fair di sini


yes part check bounced tu iols pun mmg tak sokong.. sbbnyehh takkan tak tahu berapa sen tinggal dlm acc sbb tuan direktor hanya dua adik beradik ni je in 2022.. lain lah ada hanky panky belakang2 tu antara dua beradik, yg ni kita tatawu tu pasal esok2 nak berbisnins jgn la dgn org luar, sedangkan adik beradik or tok laki sendiri pun sometimes banyak masalah.. korang jadi tuan direktor and shareholder sorang je lah senang. sekarang ni dah boleh dah.. dulu2 mmg ssm tak kasik kena ada at least 2 shareholders,,, wicis y ada term two ringgek fly by night kampeni

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Post time 8-5-2025 11:33 AM | Show all posts
Rogue98 replied at 7-5-2025 01:13 PM
GP margin kalau increase sikit2 tak per sebab the biz is allowed to have room for improvement. Its ...

ye tu sbb kita takut trigger lhdn, and kalau boleh mmg tak nak maintain gap besooo bebeno.. tp kalau ada solid or valid reason mmg takde masalah

tp benda income ni susah juga nak zoom, sbb income boleh datang dari kampeni ke, rental ke, sawit ke,  ladang ke camtu , in her case,  mebi jadi duta ke, buat iklan ke apa ke and kan jadi retis dah lama.. kalo she ada savings pun kita tatawu

cuma nya.. abg dia tu ada ke kerja hakiki hat lain? abang nya ni keja apa sebelum tu? i termacam nak terzoom dekat abang nyehh iteww
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Post time 8-5-2025 11:43 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ada yg tny kes obor against faz ni kat mahkamah winding up or civil court. Ini utk dapatkan judgment. So kat civil court. Bila dah dapat judgment kat civil court maybe obor proceed with winding up against the company. N if the judgment mmg recorded on all defs termasuk abg faz n faz, obor can proceed with bankruptcy action against faz n abg dia jugak.

And yes company n directors are separate legal entity. Kes ni i dont think faz or abg faz ada bagi individual guarantee sbb ni bukan pinjam duit. Ini kes xbayar supplier. Cuma kita ada konsep lifting up thr corporate veil. Company tu xde otak mahupon tgn utk sign the contract or ape2. Harus la ada org behind it all kan. And to say org2 lain yg fail to manage the company tu fikir sndr la. Of coz at this early stage if there is no personal guarantee faz n his bro can always file striking up application
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