Buddha's view on other religion

lyh,
I used to listen to the dharma talk but most of the time I don't understand the concept. Few years later, I finally understand part of the dharma the sangha was teaching
Me too. Suddenly understood after years attending Confucian shrines and Buddhist temples.

Seph,
You understand means they come with empathy and you don't understand means they come without empathy?
They will understand when the listens with empathy. They will not understand if they are too self-opinionated.

What is the use of sharing knowledge when the receiver's seed is not ripen?
If you don't water the seed with dhamma it will never grow. Ever.

Therefore, people asks we share. They seek for the truth, the truth reveals before them.

Sephiroth

by Adm_Cheng_Ho

They will understand when the listens with empathy. They will not understand if they are too self-opinionated.

Hmph ... ;)

You have not answer the question on how to take the knowledge to the heart yet.

Mind telling me how people supposed to listen with empathy?

If you don't water the seed with dhamma it will never grow. Ever.

Therefore, people asks we share. They seek for the truth, the truth reveals before them.

:lol The case of the Blind leading the Blind here.

Do you know the truth that you could share with other?

Nope, what you know is just knowledge. You read, you understand the words, you understand the concept. But the wisdom is not there because you don't practise it in real life. What you practise is just what you choose for yourself.

They seek Truth but whether you reveal truth to them is uncertain. :hmm:

Sephiroth

Something to think about ...

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 4-3-2005 08:03 AM:
by Vijaya

Then, sharing is a waste of time?

Yes ... because what been shared is something which they can forget.

juz like a master preaching dhamma in a dhamma assembly, not  ...

when we share dhamma wif them, we are like building up a link between them and the Triple Gem.They may not accept the things dat v share in this moment but we had planted a seed in their mind.Some day some how,they wil accept the dhamma.

Sephiroth

by Vijaya

when we share dhamma wif them, we are like building up a link between them and the Triple Gem.They may not accept the things dat v share in this moment but we had planted a seed in their mind.Some day some how,they wil accept the dhamma.  

You are just repeating the same thing of what others have spoken, with no clear understanding of what is happening. ;)

I will explain to you now how the mind works.

The mind is actually like a large forest, with each trees popping here and there due to the suffering and enjoyment you feel in the world (through your sensors). This trees drain your land's resources and waste it. Wild animals (potraying wild new desires) pops up and cause more problems.

When a person seeks Truth, he must first cut down the trees in his mind. In another word, stop doing things which he knows is bad for his mind, body and soul. He must have the strenght to do it on his own and this is where people like you comes in to give him the strength via the Teachings. Your role finishes here.

After the trees are cut, the land is still ugly to look at. It is full of tree trunks, holes and boulders (hidden problems which the person didn't notice it before) will come to light.

In this stage, the person could be so embarressed with him/herself that she or he could fall back into the old habit once again, thinking there is no escape from his/her fate. Once again, people like you could come to help OR some bad elements could come and make him or her feel even worse. In the end, it is depends on the person to be strong and make the changes.

The change is not easy. He must toil the land, remove the tree trunks, dig the earth and remove the boulders. He must work under the scorching sun alone, or if he is lucky, he could have friends to help out. In the end, he must do this. In this stage, you can help but it is depends on him again.

Finally, when the land is cleared, he could prepare the land for the new crops. He must toil again to prepare. And when it is done, he plants the seed and wait for it to grow.

It may take days, weeks, years or even lifetimes of waiting. In the end, the seed which have been sow will ripen and the land which once fill with forest now become fertile land, useful for others. Just like the mind of a Man who walks in path of Dharma.

But it still doesn't mean that the forest will not be back. It will come and the man have to toil again.

So you see ... it is depends on each person to make a change. He or she could hear sermons and the teachings, but if he or she doesn't have the strenght to make changes to him/herself, then there is no use.

That is why I put the picture of Buddha with the words in my pervious posts.

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 5-3-2005 12:09 PM:
by Vijaya

when we share dhamma wif them, we are like building up a link between them and the Triple Gem.They may not accept the things dat v share in this moment but we had planted a seed in ...

As i mentioned:
sharing and impossing are totally diffrent.
Buddhist can share the dhamma with others when others 1 2 listen.

and I dun think "sharing" is waste of time.
wat i emphasising is "jie yuan", from the moment he has touch wif the Buddha,he will be meet the dhamma in future.

not to convert,not to impose.
V dun hv supernatural power to know either that person will change or not.

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 3-3-2005 01:14 PM:
Because they know that in order to exist in this world, they MUST kill another sentient being ... intentionally or unintentionally. And knowing this fact, the Buddhas do not wish to harm others, thus ending their existence and saving others from being killed and consumed by them.

Based on your statement, it seems that a Buddhist seek not to kill because he/she seek to break away from cycle of birth and rebirth. In my opinion, why some buddhist/non-buddhist seek to be a vegetarian because they realize the suffering the animals are going through to satisfy our craving; thus, they choose to be a vegetarian. It's important to realize that the main intention of being a vegetarian is to foster compassion without hoping to gain anything in return such as ending their existence from cycle of birth and rebirth.

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 3-3-2005 12:00 PM:
Everyday you kill something, Ariya Chan ... only different between you and that person is, you didn't notice what you are killing.

In your body lies millions of cells, microbes and such ... and everyday, by various activities, you killing them just as Man dies by hands of Nature.

When you drink water, did you notice or not that the water too have microbes which are too light to be seen but can be killed by your stomach acid?

When you eat food, unless you are a strict vegetarian, did you know that there is some sort of meat in it?

Even if you are a strict vegetarian, did you know that the fruits and vegetable you are eating actually is food for others which killed off using chemicals and other such chemicals before you could eat them?

There is an old saying in Malay which my Sastera teacher once said - "Bila kamu sembahyangNya, meminta lanjutkan hayat mu, pernah terfikir ke semut yg mati di kaki anda?"

Roughly means - "When you pray for YOUR well being ... have you consider the creatures who died under your feet?"

Middle Path.
Try your best not to kill but don't over do it by harming your health or not understanding the Dharma.

Originally posted by Vijaya at 9-3-2005 06:40 PM:
As i mentioned:
sharing and impossing are totally diffrent.
Buddhist can share the dhamma with others when others 1 2 listen.

and I dun think "sharing" is waste of time.
wat i emphasising is "jie yuan", from the moment he has touch wif the Buddha,he will be meet the dhamma in future.

not to convert,not to impose.
V dun hv supernatural power to know either that person will change or not.

Sharing:

Live as a genuine Buddhist, Muslim, Christian, etc. The people living around you will indirectly learned about your belief or religion.

Sephiroth

by lyhmsia

Based on your statement, it seems that a Buddhist seek not to kill because he/she seek to break away from cycle of birth and rebirth. In my opinion, why some buddhist/non-buddhist seek to be a vegetarian because they realize the suffering the animals are going through to satisfy our craving; thus, they choose to be a vegetarian. It's important to realize that the main intention of being a vegetarian is to foster compassion without hoping to gain anything in return such as ending their existence from cycle of birth and rebirth.  

Sigh ... Ignorant Human. ;)

You seems to have this notions that humans are above all others. You seems to think that everything we do is for Moksha or Nirvana or to please some God. That is why I say you are ignorant. ;)

Why is it so hard for you to understand ONE simple fact? Everything we do is for our own benefits.

We WANT to break away from Rebirth thus we impose all kind of religions and teachings. Such imposition then becomes a sort of egoist approach in life where we see ourselves as above others.

Such egoist approach then enable us to define what is right and what is wrong according to our own beliefs and teachings. And from what is right and wrong according to our own defination, we see the world as it is.

So what is a True Compassion? True Compassion for Me is simply Give without Thinking, and try not to take anything which I do not need.


Middle Path.
Try your best not to kill but don't over do it by harming your health or not understanding the Dharma.  

Trying ... :hmm:

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by lyhmsia at 10-3-2005 00:50:


Based on your statement, it seems that a Buddhist seek not to kill because he/she seek to break away from cycle of birth and rebirth. In my opinion, why some buddhist/non-buddhist seek to be a  ...

In another words, it is actually, compassion and non-killing. there is a sutta which the buddha had spoken ofl. Being a vegetarian is so that totally refrain from Killing.

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 10-3-2005 09:09:
by lyhmsia

Based on your statement, it seems that a Buddhist seek not to kill because he/she seek to break away from cycle of birth and rebirth. In my opinion, why some buddhist/non-b ...

We do not like people to kill us, we treasure our life so does other, thus we should not kill others nor cause others to kill. There are some who gave totally out of compassion and pity and loving kindness, and seek nothing in return.

wei_loon5063

Compassion..............

Sephiroth

Originally posted by ariyamusafir at 11-3-2005 07:19 PM


We do not like people to kill us, we treasure our life so does other, thus we should not kill others nor cause others to kill. There are some who gave totally out of compassion and pity and l ...

You could treasure your life but you have no problem killing and consuming meat of animals? That is what I call hypocritism.

Compassion of Buddha MUST extend to ALL lifeforms - large or small in unison - or it will extend to nothing. :no:

marsupalamy

Ok i think i new in here and here is my opinion. From what i've been understand from the buddhist teaching, it actually influence the others religious and believing. This can been see from the chinese believing Taoism/Cunfusionism where they coming out the concept of Yin and Yang where where some is born while some will die or the most simple things when somebody do good and somebody do bad. Well as what the buddhism believe the will be a wheel of life where  is a complex symbolic representation of saṃsāra in the form of a circle (mandala), used primarily in Tibetan Buddhism. Saṃsāra is the continuous cycle of birth, life, and death and with which one liberates oneself through enlightenment.But waht make diffrent is both Confunism/Taoism  they didnt  state or concerntrate on the day after u death where buddhist was saying both eother in daily life or after life. This is just my opinion maybe any1 have others opinion??

[ Last edited by  marsupalamy at 1-9-2007 09:56 PM ]

SONofODIN

Confucianism is merely a teaching based on moral and fillial piety, cannot be considered a religion.
Taoism originally was a philosophy, it didn't touch on life after death. Later on the Taoist priests made this philosophy a religion. The current Taoism is not the same as the original. It is mixed with Buddhism. They borrowed the Doctrine of Karma into their religion, and add in their Pantheon of gods.

Buddhism was more complete, hence the Chinese switched from Taoism to Buddhism when Buddhism was introduced into China.
Most of the Chinese household today, mixed both believing they are the same.
And most of these Chinese do not know anything about religion.