New Poll : Which is the best BreastPump ?

Arianna_Muchtar

ms butterfly, panjang ceritanya kalau nak fully breastfeed
tapi it is possible! =)
anna ngah compilekan sume citer pasal  breastfeed ni
tatau la bila siapnye..kekke

ummi_ina

Originally posted by Arianna_Muchtar at 10-7-2008 04:19 PM
ms butterfly, panjang ceritanya kalau nak fully breastfeed
tapi it is possible! =)
anna ngah compilekan sume citer pasal  breastfeed ni
tatau la bila siapnye..kekke

fullamak...buat buku ker anna?
jgn lupa kasi FOC kat akak satu tawww
akak dah jd ulat buku sejak dua menjak ni

limau_nipis

den pun nak buku anna tu
kalau nak experience saya, boleh jer i e-mail to anna

Ariys21

limau..bukan ramai kt sini exclusively pumping ke?
er...ke i g tak paham?
hehehhehe

ajasu

exclusively pumping means...pam sahaja x bg direct
x bagi direct tuh maybe sbb baby yang x nak lacth on laa..

kat sini ramai fullybfeed aja rase...maksudnyer
kat umah bg direct, keja pam...kan..
dan fullybfeed maksud kita penah bg baby minum air

exclusivelybfeed maksud kita tak bg baby ape2 yang lain even air
kita cuma bg susu badan je 24 7 365...ewahhh

limau_nipis

yup.. exclusively pumping tu bagi thru bottle, tak direct breastfeeding pun

nih ada kisah pasal EP (exclusive pumping) sebab anak dia cleft palate
http://www.breastfeeding123.com/ ... p-and-cleft-palate/

ni forum group EP

http://forum.kellymom.net/forumd ... df6afbbb5c&f=21

ni Yahoo group EP
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/epers/

This group is purely for mothers who have to exclusively express milk for their babies.
This group is not for mothers who choose to pump exclusively; nor is it for mums who pump part-time and nurse part-time. It is only for mothers of babies who are completely unable to nurse.

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Many of us are grieving the loss of a nursing relationship and need a space where everyone else present understands and is sensitive to these issues. Reasons for expressing might include a special needs baby, cleft palate, premature baby, or a baby who just can't latch no matter what.

Topics of discussion may include general pumping advice, advice on maintaining a milk supply, the ins and outs of different pumps, psychological support, vents, rants, joys; the ups and downs of everyday life when EPing.

All new membership applications are auto-emailed a request to send an full introductory email. Please ignore the Yahoo Groups "reason for joining" box when applying; this feature is redundant in this group. Please note that your intro (though not necessarily your email delivery) must be from a "real" ISP email account, not a free webmail account. If the list moderator does not receive your introductory email, your membership application will time out and be automatically denied. You are welcome to re-apply and send your introduction at any time.


If you are looking for a group to assist part-time pumping mums or EPers-by-choice, check out the yahoogroup Pumpmoms. The iVillage EPers board may also be of use to EPers-by-choice.

Please read the Posting Guidelines carefully when joining. Thanks!

p/s: kak dar, hope it helps.. you really need all the encouragement from EPers

limau_nipis

Establishing and maintaining milk supply when baby is not nursingBy Kelly Bonyata, BS, IBCLC
It is important to express your milk to establish and maintain milk supply if your baby is not nursing at all or not nursing well. By expressing, you will also have your milk available to feed baby - every bit of moms' milk that baby gets (even the tiniest amount) is like liquid gold.
When should mom start pumping?

• If baby does not nurse immediately postpartum, mom should begin pumping within 6 hours of baby's birth -- starting early makes a difference for future milk production.

What pump is best?

• If baby is not nursing, seriously consider renting a hospital-grade pump (such as those made by Ameda or Medela) that will allow you to pump both breasts at the same time. A hospital-grade pump is the best choice for maintaining or increasing milk supply.
• If you are not able to rent a hospital-grade pump, consider buying a pump (preferably a quality double pump) and/or hand expression.

How much milk should mom be pumping if baby is not nursing?

• Aim for pumping 750-800 mL (25-27 oz) per day by 7-10 days postpartum. If you have twins or higher order multiples, aim for pumping 800-950 mL (27-32 oz) by 14 days postpartum.
• It's useful to evaluate mom's 24 hour pumping output at 10 days. If supply is borderline (350-500 ml / 11-17 oz) or low (less than 350 ml / 11 oz), then galactagogues (prescription meds or herbs to increase supply) or other interventions should be considered.
• The research tells us that milk production at 2 weeks is an indicator of breastfeeding outcome, so it is important to get a good start. Even if milk production doesn't start out well, however, don't get discouraged--many moms will see an increase (even as late as 9-15 weeks after birth) if they continue with regular pumping.

How often should mom pump?

• 8-10 times per day: Until supply is well established, it is important to get at least eight good nursing and/or pumping sessions per 24 hours. Ten sessions per day is better, particularly if you have twins or higher order multiples.
• These sessions don't need to be evenly spaced, but you should be nursing/pumping at least once during the night in the first few months or anytime you notice a decrease in supply. Avoid going longer than 5-6 hours without pumping during the first few months.
• When pumping during the night, milk yield tends to be better if you pump when you naturally wake (to go to the bathroom or because your breasts are uncomfortably full) than if you set an alarm to wake for pumping.
• If you are having a hard time getting in enough pumping sessions, adding even a short pumping session (increasing frequency even if milk is not removed thoroughly) is helpful.

How long should mom pump at each pumping session?

• If baby does not nurse at all:
  • The first few days, before mom's milk comes in, hand expression is often the most effective way to express colostrum. Double pump for 10-15 minutes per session for additional stimulation.
  • Once mom's milk is in, pump for 30 minutes per session, or for 2-5 minutes after the last drops of milk.
• If baby nurses but does not soften the breast well
  • Double pump for 10-15 minutes after nursing.
• Empty the breast as thoroughly as possible at each session. To ensure that the pump removes an optimum amount of milk from the breast, keep pumping for 2-5 minutes after the last drops of milk. Use breast massage prior to pumping, and massage and compressions during pumping to better empty the breasts and increase pumping output.

Additional tips

• Rest & relax as much as possible.
• Skin-to-skin (Kangaroo care) can make a significant difference in pumping output.
• If double pumping is difficult to coordinate in the beginning, then single pump, alternating sides. Move to double pumping as soon as you can.
• Avoid any medications that might interfere with milk supply (hormonal birth control, pseudoephedrine, ethanol/alcoholic beverages, bromocriptine, ergotamine, cabergoline)
• If supply is not increasing as expected by 7-10 days after birth, consider the use of galactagogues. Fenugreek, metoclopramide (Reglan) or domperidone (Motilium) can be helpful for increasing milk supply.

See Got Milk? for more information on milk supply.
Page last modified: 10/10/2005
Written: 02/19/1999 References and additional informationNote: Premature infants are certainly not the only breastfed babies who have problems nursing at the breast, but much of the writing and research in this area involves premature babies and their mothers. Talk to your lactation consultant about adapting these guidelines for older babies.
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• Pumping & Bottle Feeding
• Links: Breastfeeding a Premature Infant
• Links: Exclusive Pumping

@ other websites

• Expressing milk for your premature baby by Paula P. Meier, R.N., DNSc, FAAN. Here it is in PDF format (nice for printing; pages 13-14 only).
• Pumping milk for a preterm infant by Nancy E. Wight MD, FAAP, IBCLC

ReferencesMohrbacher N. Cutting Edge Breastfeeding Trends, Orlando, FL, June 9, 2004. Wight NE. La Leche League International Conference Session--The Premature Infant and Breastfeeding: Myth, Reality and Evidence-Based Practices, San Francisco, CA, July 5, 2003. Furman L, Minich N, Hack M. Correlates of lactation in mothers of very low birth weight infants. Pediatrics. 2002 Apr;109(4):e57. Jones E, Dimmock PW, Spencer SA. A randomised controlled trial to compare methods of milk expression after preterm delivery. Arch Dis Child Fetal Neonatal Ed. 2001 Sep;85(2):F91-5. Meier PP. Breastfeeding in the special care nursery. Prematures and infants with medical problems. Pediatr Clin North Am. 2001 Apr;48(2):425-42. Hill PD, Aldag JC, Chatterton RT. Initiation and frequency of pumping and milk production in mothers of non-nursing preterm infants. J Hum Lact. 2001 Feb;17(1):9-13. da Silva OP, Knoppert DC, Angelini MM, Forret PA. Effect of domperidone on milk production in mothers of premature newborns: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. CMAJ. 2001 Jan 9;164(1):17-21. Hill PD, Aldag JC, Chatterton RT. Effects of pumping style on milk production in mothers of non-nursing preterm infants. J Hum Lact. 1999 Sep;15(3):209-16. Bier JA, Ferguson AE, Morales Y, Liebling JA, Archer D, Oh W, Vohr BR. Comparison of skin-to-skin contact with standard contact in low-birth-weight infants who are breast-fed. Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 1996 Dec;150(12):1265-9. Anderson GC. Current knowledge about skin-to-skin (kangaroo) care for preterm infants. J Perinatol. 1991 Sep;11(3):216-26.

mrs_ree

Alhamdulillah kak makin ok skarang...5-10 minits leh dpt 3-4oz sebelah...kalo kat opis ni leh la bawak lik 12oz..compare to before nak bawak lik 8oz pon susah...makin lama pakai makin cepat let down nya...

cuma bby skarang siang kurang minum ebm la..maybe sebab dia dah makan..8-12oz jer dia minum...risau gak ree...dpt la buat stok ebm..dah ada 34 x 4oz alhamdulillah.. mcm tak caye jer leh buat stok byk2 tue..hehehe...

cloud9

wah......... ree dah ada 34 stok.. bestnye.. cloudnye dh berkurang.. ada la dlm 12x3oz jek kot..  ni tgh meningkatkan lagi usahaku.. p(><)q chayouk!!! khas utk bulan pose.. next wk nak cuba pose seminggu..

limau_nipis

ha pose pose ni... nak dekat dah... 2 bulan lagi
cepat2 ler stock up.. kang menangis tak berlagu

mrs_ree

cloud..nape dah kurang sgt tue?ayna kuat nyusu lg eh even dah makan?afiqah kurang nak nyusu ebm la..tp balik jer confirm direct jer...tak cukup 2jam nak nyusu lg..tp dia suka main2..isap jap..tgk muka kita la tgk sana sini pastu isap lg..isk2...mai la lekas buat stok..lg 2 bulan je nak pose nie..ree pon ingat nak puasa sunat nie..nak practice..ree dah post kat thread bf mintak advice camne nak puasa sambil bf..sudi2 la jawab yer kat sana..tq alls

by the way..ree mmg kagum sgt ngan moms yg exclusive pumping nie..kuat semangat diorg yer...ree tak sempat baca pg belakang2..tp tahniah la for those yg exclusive pumping..keep it up!!!

cloud9

performance stock yg ada ni pun dh nangis dh.. cuma lom berlagu jek lagi.. huhu..

cloud9

ha ah la ree.. ayna sejak makan ni bertambah2 kuat nyusu.. 5x4oz di siang hari.. makan 3 kali sehari.. tp berat bdn dia x naik byk pun.. pelik cloud tau.. 6 bln ni baru 5.8kg jek.. isk.. berat lagi spectra + avent iq ku jek.. hehe..

DARSITA

Wahhh mucho gracias cik Limau. Idak lah ku tau rupanya ada group membincangkan EPB ini.

limau_nipis

Originally posted by D** at 12/7/08 02:53 AM
Wahhh mucho gracias cik Limau. Idak lah ku tau rupanya ada group membincangkan EPB ini.

jangan lupe join group EPers tu kak dar

limau_nipis

Originally posted by cloud9 at 11/7/08 05:08 PM
performance stock yg ada ni pun dh nangis dh.. cuma lom berlagu jek lagi.. huhu..

cloud.. pam tgh malam ok.. boleh nak build up stok
kena rajin bangun malam jer

DARSITA

Originally posted by limau_nipis at 7/11/08 16:19


jangan lupe join group EPers tu kak dar

nenanti kalau ada kelapangan saya akan register.


My harta karun

an324

wah, smpi 2 ke avent isis kak dar?
ke satu tu iq uno?
well, since kak dar EP, nape tak beli dual pam like PISA or freestyle?
*heheh, ingat kak dar ni gile pam mcm aku jugak ke..
bkn apa, kat sana mesti lagi murah kan..

ummi_ina

gals

semalam wktu mengepam guna spectra..tetiba pikiran jahat dtg
'klulah letgo spectra+avent isis, pstu topup sikit RM,
boleh rembat ameda lactaline nih'
isk...tetiba dah terjangkit gila BP la pulak

an324

Originally posted by ummi_ina at 14-7-2008 04:26 PM
gals

semalam wktu mengepam guna spectra..tetiba pikiran jahat dtg
'klulah letgo spectra+avent isis, pstu topup sikit RM,
boleh rembat ameda lactaline nih'
isk...tetiba dah terjangkit gila B ...

cadangan ok apa kak ina..
*cubaan meracun.. hehehehehe....